A fascinating conversation with consultant futurist Mark T Jones on what he hopes the future might hold for biophilic design, and what we, as individuals on this planet, could do ourselves to make our environments a whole lot better. He talks about symbolism in Africa and the connection to nature he’s witnessed on that continent. We also touch on vernacular imagery, the Knepp Wildland project, the rural paintings of Constable, prisons and how we might interpret ‘Mother Earth’.